Two teenagers arrested suspected of shooting at more than 20 cars

rek002 said on January 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM

maddjack that was too judgemental and harsh. I'm assuming you either don't think children should be able to talk to their parents or you don't believe it's possible for most everyone to be afraid of my mom.

rek002 said on January 25, 2010 at 9:12 AM

Explain it to social services mean_mom. I didn't call it in, the kid did. Kids have the control to call in anytime they believe they are being mistreated by their parents, whether the punishment was deserving or not...In the area these kids live in they are trusted to actually hunt by themselves and I know several who do. They made a stupid choice, they get the blame. But I don't know all the facts, if both even did the shooting. I was also scared to death of my parents and when I really needed them, still couldn't talk to them because of fear, my mom still scares me and I'm in my 40's. That shouldn't happen, I should be able to go to her with anything.

maddjack55 said on January 25, 2010 at 8:56 AM

mean_mom I'm glad it worked for you. It obviously did'nt work for these kids.

mean_mom said on January 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM

re002 There is a major difference between hitting and spanking. Slapping a child in the face, I guess I would have to hear what came out of that mouth. Was that child verbally battering it's mother? Or did the slap come for nothing? Disciplining a child is a major part of parenthood. If you want to tell me that you can "talk" it out. I'm not buying. maddjack - I was tempted by things I could look at when my parents were there but couldn't touch without permission. The reason I didn't touch is fear. I knew my parents would DISCIPLINE me and it wouldn't be pleasant. I knew, without doubt, I would get caught. Having a healthy respect for what my parents could, and would, do to me when I got caught kept me in line.

maddjack55 said on January 24, 2010 at 4:48 PM

Fine ke316 that will make an excellent epitaph on the Grave Stone "THEY KNEW BETTER, WERE RAISED BETTER" but we're so sorry they did'nt listen. Again and again we debate blame. Like I said before just disable the gun(s). We would'nt be having this discussion if the PARENTS had done that. If Dad hunts then he knows that leaving a gun accesible to ANYONE in the home is not acceptable. Period!!! I have grandkids and my weapons are locked in a cabinet and they DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE KEYS!!! Maybe it's just too cut and dry for anyone to get. I don't know. Take away the gun(s) scenario and again THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. Knowing not to "play" with guns when Mom and Dad are around is fine. Were'nt you ever tempted to take out something your parents told you not to play with? I did. But my dad's guns, knives, even his cleaning tools were put under lock and key. I'm sure the family is devastated. I'm confident the Parents won't let it happen again.

ke316 said on January 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM

okay, so if you want to start pointing fingers about bored kids in small towns...why dont we blame the school too then while we are at it..... all there is to do in a small town is play sports. what if you are not an athlete? no other clubs to speak of at all....you dont play sports...you entertain yourself. im not saying at all what they did was okay - i was in a home with guns.... my dad hunted and had multiple rifles in our home. I never once took them out when he wasnt home as he would have broke my fingers. I have no doubt these boys had the same rules - one of the boys' dads is a huge hunter and his boys know right from wrong when it comes to guns. IT'S NOT THE PARENTS FAULT. Most kids are old enough to baby sit at age 12 or 13 - at age 14 15 you definately know not to play with guns and especially not to take them out to a tree house and shoot at passing cars. THEY KNEW BETTER, WERE RAISED BETTER, and did something completely STUPID.

ke316 said on January 24, 2010 at 1:01 PM

okay, so if you want to start pointing fingers about bored kids in small towns...why dont we blame the school too then while we are at it..... all there is to do in a small town is play sports. what if you are not an athlete? no other clubs to speak of at all....you dont play sports...you entertain yourself. im not saying at all what they did was okay - i was in a home with guns.... my dad hunted and had multiple rifles in our home. I never once took them out when he wasnt home as he would have broke my fingers. I have no doubt these boys had the same rules - one of the boys' dads is a huge hunter and his boys know right from wrong when it comes to guns. IT'S NOT THE PARENTS FAULT. Most kids are old enough to baby sit at age 12 or 13 - at age 14 15 you definately know not to play with guns and especially not to take them out to a tree house and shoot at passing cars. THEY KNEW BETTER, WERE RAISED BETTER, and did something completely STUPID.

plugger said on January 24, 2010 at 10:59 AM

These two boys come from good, decent homes. They are involoved in athletics, clubs, ffa, 4-h everything. WHy they did something this stupid no one knows. THey are not baggy pants, nose rings, dope smokers and all of the other stereo- typing that has gone on here. THe families are devasted as both of these boys have been through hunters education, hunt with thier fathers etc. Just goes to show that we have no idea what kids are thinking these days.

maddjack55 said on January 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM

ke316. When kids get bored and tired of doing the same thing everyday they're going to look for other things to do. You put a loaded and/or an accesible gun in the house and the parents not there or working or whatever what do think is going to happen? You think it's NOT the parents fault? Who do think is responsible? Take away the gun(s) scenario and we have no crime. Sure the kids are responsible but I'm saying if the Parents were a little more careful with their weapons this may not have happened and the kids would be at home and not in jail. KE316 would you feel the way you do IF ONE OF THE CHILDREN HAD BEEN ACCIDENTALLY KILLED BY THE OTHER? It happens. Don't think because this happened in a "small" town that this is not a common problem. Just hope they don't graduate to shooting people instead of vehicles. Remember Lakewood WA????

rek002 said on January 24, 2010 at 10:38 AM

The charge in Idaho is a felony for whoever thought it wasn't. I wonder how it went for as long as 20 vehicles. That highway does not have that much traffic. As far as hitting a child, that is considered child abuse and the laws are strict in Idaho on that. I know a neighbor that slapped her child and had social services on her door step. We have too many children in foster care now, so don't put more there. Class has nothing to do with choices. The brattiest kids I know come from higher class homes. My own kids are not angels and there are no to very few who may be anywhere in this world. Kids do hear their parents but will do what they want anyway.

mean_mom said on January 24, 2010 at 9:06 AM

If this were my child I would be completely ashamed. I would have to wonder, and agree with others, where did I go wrong? These boys knew how to use their weapons and they obviously were taught gun safety or they would have shot each other instead of 20 moving vehicles. Parents need to wake up and see that when someone says your kid is not an angel, it's your fault in the raising not the kid theyr'e sitting by!

ke316 said on January 24, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Comment preview: ke381 saidThis is not the parents fault - kids are left unsupervised at 14 just as I was - parents have to work - and in a small community it's common and I guess you'd have to be from a small town to understand. The boys are old enough to know better - again, I was left alone as were most of my classmates at that age - and none of us were off with 22's shooting at cars. I'm sure the parents are extremely upset so people should back off and hold the boys responsible, not the poor parents. It also has nothing to do with "class" - give me a break. It has everything to do with two stupid kids with guns so don't try and turn it in to something it's not. It is what it is and it stinks.

ke381 said on January 24, 2010 at 12:15 AM

This is not the parents fault - kids are left unsupervised at 14 just as I was - parents have to work - and in a small community it's common and I guess you'd have to be from a small town to understand. The boys are old enough to know better - again, I was left alone as were most of my classmates at that age - and none of us were off with 22's shooting at cars. I'm sure the parents are extremely upset so people should back off and hold the boys responsible, not the poor parents.

ke381 said on January 23, 2010 at 10:46 PM

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dega77 said on January 23, 2010 at 10:22 PM

Where were the parents? Why weren't these two boys taught the proper use and handling of a gun? These boys are old enough to know better but where are their parents?

dickcheneyrocks said on January 23, 2010 at 8:08 PM

meanmom is right - someone should punch these fools in front of their friends to show them what's right!!!! I would also vote for shooting them in the legs - dummeez!!! I spank the hell out of my kids - they don't shoot at cars, so I know that it works. Good advice mean mom!!!!

mean_mom said on January 23, 2010 at 4:05 PM

These kids need to be disciplined in front of their peers and all the people in the vehicles they hit. If I had pulled a stunt like this my dad would have blistered my hind end. Not to mention the possiblity of him shooting me in the leg so I would know it's not fun to play with guns! Take them to a morgue and show them what people who get shot look like. Scare the heck out of them. Kids now don't have any fear, of consequences or adults. Their parents take away their videogame instead of spanking them. They can't watch t.v. instead of working to repair the damage. Parents can't possibly spank their child, it would hurt his feelings. I would rather hurt my childs feelings than have him think it's fun to possibly KILL someone else. I would rather spank him today for throwing rocks at people than wait until he tries to shoot somebody!

maddjack55 said on January 23, 2010 at 2:25 PM

Westy. How do you come to the conclusion that liberals are to blame for the kids' shooting vehicles? The law has alway's been that a minor is a MINOR under the age of 18! Sounds like you're trying to blame everybody BUT who IS at blame.....the parents!!!

bigdogrunswild said on January 23, 2010 at 2:13 PM

so are these kids from low class? anyone have their myspace links?

westy said on January 23, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Can't do a thing...minors..thanks to the liberals..they have to kill some one first and then again, 14 yr olds...nothing you can do.

wouldibsu said on January 23, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Pandabear, you're funny! You think these two Clearisil junkies were being marksman enough to MISS the operators/passengers in these vehicles? teachermom, at fourteen I had guns AND the keys to the gun cabinet. Blame social and moral decline. Most of these droopy-pants dullards can't even tell time unless it's digital and not analog. I bet they pulled them drawers up when they got to County. lmao

wouldibsu said on January 23, 2010 at 12:13 PM

When I grew up in southern Idaho 14 year olds could take driver ed. and get their day license to operate a motor vehicle. I took driver ed the summer after 8th grade, and drove my '65 Impala to school when I began 9th grade. They say kids today's kids are more mature at younger ages than compared to adolescents years ago. Rrrrrrright. When I imagine 14 year olds today being allowed licenses to get behind the wheel, I shudder at the thought. I also had guns. Received a Winchester 30-30 for Christmas at 13, had my hunting license and shot my first deer (not a CAR) at age 14 in the Owyhee mountains of southern Idaho. The times have most definitely changed, and not for the better. God help us all.

maddjack55 said on January 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Here's a thought. IF YOU HAVE KIDS, LOCK UP THEIR GUNS. If a parent has guns (which most do) LOCK UP YOUR GUNS. If you can't afford a gun locker then disable the gun(s). Take the bolt out, disassemle the slide from an semi-auto pistol, hide the clips or speed loader. Hiding the bullets won't work. Hey, joey bring over your dad's gun. WON'T WORK!!! And parents, don't hide the parts in the house. Use common sense and take the assemblies with you to work in your vehicle. If all parents would take an active parenting role in their kids safety we would all be safer and maybe the child will live to at least graduate high school. After that their own experiences and good parenting will take over. WE ALL HOPE!

teachermom said on January 23, 2010 at 11:48 AM

The kids were 14... huh, let me see... where were the parents? Parents are ultimately responsible. Guns should have been in a LOCKED cabinet. If you know your kids get into trouble, then plan ahead to protect everyone! Wake up!

donttasemebro said on January 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM

That's it? Charged with illegally discharging a firearm? Oooo, tough charge.. They should be charging them at with several crimes, 3 of them felonies off the top of my head. Discharging a firearm is like shooting it off in your backyard, not at passing motorists.. And I stand by my original sarcasm comment of "Sniper? Please.. he's an idiot with a gun". Don't insult marksmen and professional snipers by giving that label to these idiots.

pandabear said on January 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Talk about a rock and a hard place.... Parents need to really impress on their children what is permissable and not. What the teens did was not permissable. However, on the other side of the coin, I am glad they were decent enough shot to hit a big moving target without hurting a human life. Hopefully, these young men will join the marines and put their love for firearms to good use in the war against terrorism and to protect those of us who enjoy having our freedoms of speech, assembly, to bear arms, choice of religion and a fair trial. Many around the world aren't so lucky. Boys, shame on you! Next time stop and think before you act.

maddjack55 said on January 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Discharging a Firearm? Are you kidding me? It's not the intent that shooting at vehicles is the crime. PEOPLE drive the VEHICLES. These idiots will be released to their parents, maybe juvy till 18. BOY they won't do that again. What a joke. Just remember, guns don't kill people-people kill people. Their very fortunate that they did'nt kill or injure anyone. Their parents better have deep pockets. Their responsible for their childrens actions. The teenagers will get a slap on their wrist and told, "now children don't do this again". I'm fed up with kids doing stupid and sometimes deadly things and as an adult I can't put a hand on them. I'm sick and tired of hearing about juveniles doing this and that and they get no jail time and basically a slap on the wrist or released to their parents. If the parents would have paid a little more attention to their kids in the first place maybe this does'nt happen. Their parents did'nt know that the kids had guns? CANS OR CARS TODAY?

plugger said on January 23, 2010 at 9:53 AM

I agree with brightfight. Lets be thankful first of all that no one was injured. There will be many questions of why something like this happened, of course the liberals will blame guns right off the bat. Video games? I personally feel the violence of video games and televesion that some youth are exposed to for hours on end could play more of a part then guns that were not locked up.

brightfight said on January 23, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Slow your roll on the parent thing for now. They may be F ups but you don't know that for sure. Sometimes loving parents are so busy trying to make a living the kids aren't afforded the attention they need and that's hardly criminal. Yes, the kids should have known better, (little jerks) but kids do very stupid things at that age. This is probably the dumbest I've heard of. Hopefully they were acting out of ignorance rather than malice but we need more details before hanging them or their parents. The kids should be punished to full extent of the law in whatever violation sticks

justintime said on January 23, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Someone could of been killed. Deary has seen it's fill of tragedy. These children need to be charged and do their time. There are much better things to do on a day off from school. Shame on them, I am sure their parents are mortified right now. I am so glad no one got hurt, as many of my relatives are in that area, and also drive for Buell. Good job Latah Sherriff.

rek002 said on January 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM

Well put Harwroc....If you start banning guns, what other amendments will we lose. Gov't has already started on the religion one. Not only that, my son almost died after being beat up, do we ban the feet, hands, knives, bats, etc. just because someone used it to kill someone whether intentional or not, out of maliciousness or accident? Besides, the only people who will then have guns are the criminals because they will still have some way of getting them, sounds like a great idea. There goes whatever freedoms we have. No matter how perfect we raise our kids, they make dumb choices when parents are not around. That's why they have less rights than adults until they are 18 and are classified as little minds that can't think for themselves in many cases. Totally impossible to be with your kid 24/7, 365 days. Passing judgement before knowing facts is harsh, even though I agree with hardwroc's punishment. Kids that go to jail end up going back because of what they learn there.

snowman2 said on January 23, 2010 at 2:27 AM

Perhaps it might just be a good idea to charge the parents of these boys for contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Obviously no one is very interested in what they are doing and apparently their upbringing leaves a little to be desired. If the parents were punished alongside the kids maybe they'd pay a little more attention to what their children are doing. If their home situation is really very bad it might be a good idea to consider a foster home. Somewhere along the way these kids got the idea it was OK to do this and they could get away with it. It's time to teach them now (and their parents) that this is not going to work.

hardwroc said on January 23, 2010 at 1:12 AM

Ban all teenagers ! And trucks ! And don't forget they throw rocks too, so , better gather all of them up and lock them up. Maybe just close down the highways and lock up the cars? It may get to be a problem when the groceries run out, but, maybe we can get your permission to walk to the market. This is sounding like another case of extremely bad thought processing by a couple of kids. YES, they need to pay for it, but, hopefully in a manner that will TEACH them the lesson without making it worse. Lots of public service and face to face apologies and monetary damage repayment, and some probation would likely make a positive difference. A few years in the lock up will teach them burglary skills and add to their confused view of the world. Guessing wildly from the distance at least.

orrion123 said on January 23, 2010 at 1:01 AM

Ban all guns? You have a right to keep and bear arms that shall not be infringed. Take mine out of my cold, dead fingers!

bigdogrunswild said on January 22, 2010 at 11:21 PM

So what is the punishment? Attempted murder?...how about we put these idiots out there and shoot and them. Hope they tested them for gun residue. Make it stick in court and lets get these fools out there and start shooting at them.

skagita1 said on January 22, 2010 at 11:21 PM

As someone who lives 100 yards away from where this happened, there are a few things you should know.. We had no idea that anything was happening until our daughter called to tell us she had heard it on the scanner.. My husband was outside all day and heard nothing but the normal. I feel for all of the people that were shot at, I know several of them.. Thank you ISP and Latah County for not going airborne and blowing up my house... As for gun control, I thank God every day that in June of 2009 My daughter had one... While home with her three children, two escapies from NICI broke into her house.

triplea said on January 22, 2010 at 11:12 PM

there was no school because it was some thing for the teachers today,

skagit_a1 said on January 22, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Thank you all for your input on the situation, but as we live 100 yards away from where this happened. There are a few things you should know.. We were not aware that anything was going on at all until we had a phone call from our Daughter, that she had heard it on the scanner. Yes, I do feel for the people in the vehicles that were shot at, some of them I know. Thank you ISP and Latah county for not going airborne and taking out my house. As for the gun control issue.... You would not feel that way if it was your daughter, with 3 young children that had to pull a gun on two escapies from NICI in June 2009 that were breaking into her house.

rbg000 said on January 22, 2010 at 10:59 PM

No school today for Deary/Bovill, hence the reason they were out making trouble. Just lucky that no one was hurt, could have been a horrible tradegy in our little community. As for the ban on on guns... guns don't kill, it is the stupid people with no morals or common sense that create tragedy!

naeychp526 said on January 22, 2010 at 10:33 PM

How horrible. I have now read that they arrested two juvenilles. I truly believe that these two have what is coming to them. When you are of that age and live in Idaho around guns, ur parents teach you what they do and the things that they can cause. What was going through their heads? And why were they not in school? They really could have hurt "ANYONE" meaning kids, parents grandparents or even their class mates. They really need to be punished for this and realize the consequences.

northidahoan said on January 22, 2010 at 10:27 PM

"Sniper? please. He's just an idiot with a gun, that's all." Encarta Dictionary defines "sniper" as: 1. Hidden shooter- somebody who shoots people from a concealed position. Yes, this person is a sniper.

guest12345 said on January 22, 2010 at 9:39 PM

It just came over the scanner that they have one in custody and are on their way to the jail. Well done Latah county.

iceman61 said on January 22, 2010 at 9:31 PM

"Ban all guns"..let's ban airplanes too because real terrorist hijack them and fly them into really tall buildings and kill thousands of innocent people. Just BRILLIANT! Let's support law enforcement and help them catch this loser and put them away. We need tougher punishment, not more regulation.

guest12345 said on January 22, 2010 at 9:14 PM

Jack Buelle's office (the trucking company out of St. Maries) is reporting over 20 vehicles damaged. This information was available to the KREM2 reporters if they were listening to the local police via scanner. I'm assuming that's where they heard it, because that's where I heard it. I'm not sure if they have anyone in custody, but it does sound as if they know who is responsible. The person is from Deary and they were interviewing them earlier this evening.

tobyjones said on January 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Ban all guns. The only ones who use guns are terrorist and our government who are protecting us. This is actually great timing as Senator Kline in Seattle has a hearing on a bill on the 26th to Ban almost all weapons capable of holding more than 10 rounds. Info on the bill http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6396 Please contact both of your State Representatives and your State Senator TODAY at 800-562-6000 and politely urge them to oppose SB6396. Find your representative http://apps.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/Default.aspx

triplea said on January 22, 2010 at 8:03 PM

this isn't good, a couple of my freinds have been acused of the shootings while a couple more were a few inches from getting shot in the head.

donttasemebro said on January 22, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Sniper? please. He's just an idiot with a gun, that's all. It's to bad they didn't find out earlier and shut down the area and go airborne to take this guy out. If/when they catch up to this guy, I have a feeling it won't be pretty.

upthewazzu said on January 22, 2010 at 7:10 PM

20 vehicles? Where the heck did you get that? Every other news source from this area says FIVE vehicles were hit.